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April 30, 2007

Fire Melts Concrete

I don't know. It looks like a controlled demolition to me.

I'm just saying there are unanswered questions is all.

Posted by annika, Apr. 30, 2007 | TrackBack (0)
Rubric: Science & Technology


You're just soooo beggin for the truthers to show up, aren't ya?

Article to laugh about:

Quote that 9/11 Conspiracy Smasher gathered from the conspiracy fantasist's post:

"What is very weird is just a month back or so, I posted on a similar fire where the overpass DIDN'T collapse, and I made special note of that fact.

NOW, we have an example where there is a collapse!

Isn't that special? It's almost as if someone was reading this site and was determined to prove me wrong."

That quote from the same genius who - get this - built a chicken-wire frame of a single WTC tower, put a bowl of kerosene at the bottom, lit it, and said in so many words 'No melting, no collapse, WTC collapse was fake'.

Brings to mind something a customer at an old job told me: She was a guard at the county jail. She told me that the lengths the inmates went to in order to circumvent or "creatively interpret" the rules so clearly demonstrated their considerable intelligence and will that she was just flabbergasted that those folks were in jail. Her point being that, if they'd just applied that considerable intelligence and willpower to constructive pursuits, they'd be successful, but they keep wasting it on responding to the provocation they perceive in societal and prison rules. They're intelligent, but they misguide themselves.

That brings me to these conspiracy fantasists. They have the ability to see the truth - those sites I linked in the previous posts for 9/11 Myths and Debunking 9/11 aren't that hard to understand - but they go out of their way to construct their own world because they see themselves as responding to the provocation from events which they refuse to admit are illusionary (the "provocations", I mean, not the events themselves). They pride themselves on intelligence, but they don't stop to analyze their sloppy thinking, like the folks who seize on any story mentioning how the Bush Administration was warned ahead of time, but then, one thread later, resurrect the old canard about how the terrorists identities were stolen or faked. It's just painful to watch folks who could be smart intentionally lower their intelligence by subscribing to such drivel without critically thinking about it. It's as if they didn't pay attention in their science classes and note the other "observed" phenomena in history that didn't pan out, like the ether, or phlogiston. Juxtaposition is not thinking, it's merely a tool, one of many building blocks on which you organize data to analyze. Yet, for these folks, juxtaposition is evidence enough to leap to conclusions. It hurts the brain to see logic abused so.

Anyway, end of rant. Are you just beggin' for some fantasists to come and "just ask questions" again? You thrill cheaply, babe. :D

Posted by: ElMondoHummus on Apr. 30, 2007

Yes it does raise questions. Why didn't they burn more of Oaktown?

Posted by: Casca on May. 1, 2007

Yo, El, the mind can only absorb what the seat can endure.

Posted by: Casca on May. 1, 2007

I dunno, it does seem like a lot of damage and gas truck do not explode, gasoline is not an explosive. Yes, the vapor if contained in a closed chamber with oxygen added, would explode but this is not what happens when a truck crashes. Gas leaks all over the place and burns.

On the off ramp from 695 West to 83 north (baltimore) a similar event took place. Gas truck took the exit ramp too fast and crashed to the right wall while under 695 crossing overhead. Lots of fire, scorched concrete, melted steel but nothing collapsed, not even close. Overpass was a total loss and had to be replaced but I just cannot fathom how burning gas took out that many structures some of which were 30 feet above. Lets not forget that within 10-15 minutes there was water being sprayed. It looks to me like an explosion.

Posted by: Strawman on May. 1, 2007

here's some good video


draw your own conclusions.

it was probably just shoddy bay area workmanship, most likely due to labor unions.


Posted by: annika on May. 1, 2007

Well, quit sittin' on them damn nails, Cas.

Jeez... do I gotta do all the thinkin' fer ya??


Posted by: ElMondoHummus on May. 2, 2007