...it's not dark yet, but it's gettin' there...
That's not a good polling question. The question should be, "Do you have an appropriate amount of healthcare coverage for this point in your life?"
Single under thirty? You probably don't need anything. Raising a family, or over forty, of course you need coverage.
Posted by: Casca on May. 3, 2007Excellent point, Casca. The "uninsured" issue is such a load of crap when one considers that the vast majority of those in this group are young, single people who choose not to purchase insurance. Of course, the Lefties mischaracterize the data to try and make us all believe that socialized medicine is the answer.
Posted by: blu on May. 3, 2007Blu,
Relax, and let your head out of your sphincter. The myth is that the younger cohorts don't need it. True they need it less but your characterization about the lefties and the manufactured need pointing to socialized medicine is uninformed.
Have you ever had a hospital stay? Do you have insurance? Do you pay out of pocket or are you infantilized by your employer or had a union bargain for you?
Posted by: Strawman on May. 4, 2007I always find it interesting that some people will spend thousands on a vacation, shell out $300-$400 per month on a their vehicle, or spend $1200 on a television yet balk when asked to pay for their own healthcare and/or health insurance.
Posted by: TinyElvis on May. 4, 2007-Relax, and let your head out of your sphincter.
I can't believe it. Strawman has inspired me. He has given me an idea for a new creation. I will call it the "strawcolputin". It is like a turducken except the ingredients are different. Creating it requires Strawman, Gary Coleman, and Grigory Rasputin. The instructions for making it are as follows:
-You must first take Rasputin out of the jar ( http://tinyurl.com/2gedkr )
-Stick Rasputin up Gary Coleman's ass
-Continue to stick Gary Coleman up Strawman's ass
-Place the "strawcolputin" in pre-heated oven
-Bake until crispy
LMFAO, damn I laughed til it hurt.
Posted by: Casca on May. 4, 2007"The myth is that the younger cohorts don't need it."
"Need" is not even the point, Straw. Don't change the subject. The FACT, however, is that the data on the subject show that the vast majority choose not to purchase health insurance. The Left's Big Lie is that people just can't afford it or that it's unaccessible. Of course, as usual, the Left is purposely deceiving the public in order to try and pull off another power grab.
And, Straw, I'd never have a fucking thug union bargain for me. There are few things I despise more than unions. The damage they have done and continue to do to our economy is an outrage.
Posted by: blu on May. 4, 2007are you infantilized by your employer
Man, Kevlar Irony Proof™ The same freak who wet dreams about the gubmint infantalizing every single person's entire life through a heavy handed nanny state has the gall to call accepting partial insurance premiums (in liu of more pay) from an employer in exchange for productive work.
Posted by: Radical Redneck on May. 5, 2007Straw, infantilized means more than the diaper you wear to The Vault on free night.
Posted by: Radical Redneck on May. 5, 2007RR,
Actually its the left that bothers me about health insurance. There is this belief that it is the obligation of an employer to provide it, and to not makes a company derelict.
I do believe you are correct, that there is no harm and much good if it has been negotiated between employer and employee or collectively between a union and an employer.
So, Red, since you see it as additional remuneration should the value of the employers contribution be taxed? And if not is that fair to stiffs like me who pay entirely out of after tax income?
Posted by: Strawman on May. 5, 2007So, Red, since you see it as additional remuneration should the value of the employers contribution be taxed?
Of course not. As a conservative I'm never in favor of new taxes. Plus, to use one of the leftists' favorite arguments, it is good public policy to encourage (not coerce) employers to use their purchasing power to offer low cost health insurance to their serfs. You know, as well as I, that most people wouldn't bother with
it unless they had a castastrophe staring them in their face. This way we cut back on the deadbeats running up huge hospital bills that end up on the taxpayer's back (like the illegals).
And if not is that fair to stiffs like me who pay entirely out of after tax income?
Nice try. Life aint fair. Again I know you know that medical payments and premiums are deductible for contractors if they exceed a very attainable percentage of one's income. Anyone middle or upper middle class should have no problem meeting this floor.
Are you suggesting additional tax relief should go to...The Rich™?
Bushbot!
Strawman is often really funny and kind of genteel and you guys are often...uh, not.
Posted by: Joules on May. 15, 2007