...it's not dark yet, but it's gettin' there...
I have a somewhat different take on the whole Imus debacle. I've always thought he was totally overrated and I never understood his appeal or influence. Happily, living in California, I don't have to listen to him.
However, I think the huge uproar surrounding Imus's recent unfunny racial jokes, his subsequent apologies, public bitchslapping and two week suspension have shown us just how far we've come as a society that is unwilling to tolerate such insensitivity.
It is right and just that Imus be brought low, a-hole that he is.
I also firmly believe that this controversy has brought us closer to that glorious day, which will occur soon and possibly within our lifetimes, when no one will ever be insulted ever again. By anyone. At any time. In any way.
Hallelujah!
Update: It's official. Wikipedia now refers to "Imus in the Morning" in the past tense.
Lol, you forgot to turn the sarcasm off.
I remember Imus from when I was a boy, and he was a drunk on the radio (AM) in Cleveland. He was hilarious to my preteen mind back in those days, but hell, we only had three channels on TV, so my fun meter pegged pretty easily. Then he went to NYC, turned to smack, got fired everywhere, cleaned up his act, and re-emerged with his grouchy old prick schtick. He's been saying worse things about everyone for years. Had he called them nappy headed dykes, he could fall back on the truth defense. My joy in this is that he's been whoring for the D's for a couple of years now, and for the next ten years, he'll be a public joke.
Posted by: Casca on Apr. 10, 2007Nicely said Casca.
I'm fucking sick of this non-story. It was a stupid, un-funny comic routine. That's it. Nobody busted out the "N" word. Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton have both said worse things about Jews and whites and yet both have the fucking balls to act offended in hopes of raising some money for themselves and their parasites in the "civil rights" community. Fucking pricks. I despise both those frauds and their out-dated, pathetic "cause."
What's more disgusting than all the phony black outrage and white liberal guilt is the fact that black rappers/hip-hop artists say worse shit about their own people every fucking day on the raido and make millions selling it too little white, brown, yellow, and black boys. So, when young black males preach misogyny, and toss around the "N" word every other sentence, well, that's art. But when an old, insignifcant, white asshole says something only barely racist, then, of course, America is a cauldron of racism just waiting to boil over.
There are few things I care less about than the phony "racism" cries of black and white liberals.
As for Don, I couldn't give a shit. I don't think he should be fired, but I sure wouldn't mind if his market-value went down. One less dip-shit on the airwaves is good thing.
Posted by: blu on Apr. 10, 2007Actually, I watch him almost every weekday.
I record it on TiVo and after an hour or so, scroll through and get rid of the crap and commercials.
Lately, it's been a lot more crap than funny. His ultraliberal child bride has turned him from M Republican into a pussy patsy for the likes of John Kerry, Cris Dodd and James Carville and Paul Begala. He always notes that he's a Republican but he never votes that way.
I like watching Lieberman, McCain and a few others, including Colonel Jack Jacpbs who got the Medal of Honor, but more and more he is unfunny and liberal.
Maybe now he'll become a little more conservative, since the definition of a conservative is "A liberal who just got mugged".
Imus just got mugged.
Posted by: shelly on Apr. 10, 2007Annie,
My take is that he's an old dinosaur blowhard who doesn’t understand the world, despite the visitations of many Presidential wannabees, doesn’t revolve around him and his wife as they schlep their "green" products and tell us the great things he does on his ranch.
What pisses me off most is not his racist, feminist, stupid rants it's that recently with the Walter Reed scandal, he attacked the Army leadership, who no doubt both screwed up the job and the discussion, but called some "sons of bitches" bastards, and for court-martial.
I say, whoever is stupid enough to employ Imus, gets what they deserve.
Judging from the sheer volume of advertisements that I scroll through trying to find a little comedy on Imus without his wife's liberal buddies' commentary, I'd say that whoever employs him makes a lot of money in the process.
Sometimes he is pretty outrageous but I think he knows pretty well who and what he is. He is a parody of himself and he laughs at himself as much as others do.
I also think he is sincerely sorry for his comments, taken out of context, to be sure, but still sorry they have caused so much pain to the girls, mostly thanks to the bible thumping frauds, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, who are riding this wave for all it is worth.
And, by the way, so is Imus. His viewership is bound to increase exponentially as those who never heard of him tune in when the "suspension" is over.
Meanwhile, he takes a "vacation" and does the circuit advertising his show. Hell, dontcha just love showbiz??
Posted by: shelly on Apr. 11, 2007I don't know Shelly. He has a face for radio. When I look at him, I think of my mother after a year of cancer. Is Fred still around, or did the new wife banish him?
I should have known that it was the young, large breasted wife. His course correction was about 180 degrees. As for the ranch, give me a fucking break. It's a fucking tax dodge. Nothing like a 501(c)3 if you have a way to hustle people for money. His fund raising for his fraud/ranch was embarrassing.
Posted by: Casca on Apr. 11, 2007Imus just got mugged... the question is how much will Al and Jesse bleed him. The sad twist to this story is Rutgers University getting in on the act.
I didn't see the whole press conference, but Rutgers is lucky no reporter got one of the players to deviate from the script by asking a question such as what rappers/songs the players have on their Ipods..
Jason Whitlock summed up the point nicely:
http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/66339.html
"With the comments of a talk-show host most of her players had never heard of before last week serving as her excuse, Vivian Stringer rambled on for 30 minutes about the amazing season her team had.
Somehow, we’re supposed to believe that the comments of a man with virtually no connection to the sports world ruined Rutgers’ wonderful season. Had a broadcaster with credibility and a platform in the sports world uttered the words Imus did, I could understand a level of outrage.
But an hourlong press conference over a man who has already apologized, already been suspended and is already insignificant is just plain intellectually dishonest. This is opportunism. This is a distraction."
Oh, wonder if the Duke Lacrosse players will get an hour long press conference to talk about being "scarred for life" and whether they'll get an apology from some of the Duke faculty members..
"Oh, wonder if the Duke Lacrosse players will get an hour long press conference to talk about being "scarred for life" and whether they'll get an apology from some of the Duke faculty members..."
Exactly, Col! I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for the professional, left-wing race-baiters to apologize. I gurantee many of them are either sadly disapointed that this whole episode was a lie made up a cheap whore or that they refuse to believe that the evil, white-males didn't actually rape the helpless, black female.
These people's entire political belief system is premised on non-white/non-Western victimhood and a belief in innate white/Western racism - facts be damned.
I'd be interested in your take on Gingrich's admission that there is sufficient evidence for anthropogenic global warming;
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2007/04/11/gingrich_drops_skepticism_on_global_warming/
i'd have to take newt very seriosly, since he's a scientist and all. and of course he's not running for president.
Posted by: annika on Apr. 11, 2007I'd be interested in Will's take on yet another famous and prestigious scientist saying that the global warming propogandists are full it and full of themselves. And, of course, another in the chorus of voices calling Al Gore's movie what it is: C-R-A-P.(Will Ad Hominem Alert: get ready for a personal attack on the particular MIT professor and an inability to deal with him intellectually.)
Pretty cold April, Will, don't ya think?
Newt's ass-kissing of yet another liberal is just one more nail in his presidential coffin. Seriously, why would any self-respecting person - let alone conservative - be in the same room with that pompous, arrogant weasel. Hey, Will, I'll bet you voted for ol' John, didn't ya. You guys have a lot in commmon. I'll let you figure out what those personality traits are.
this Imus thing demonstrates the worst knee jerk - emphasis on "jerk" aspects of our society. I don't know Imus well, though I did see his apology. I was impressed that it was an actual apology - as opposed to the fake apologies employed by Bill Clinton, Dick Durbin, et al, when they never actually got around to apologizing for any wrongdoing. Imus gets points from me for his apology.
Jesse and Al are jokes. Imus is a fool to cater to them.
WTF IS THE RUTGERS BASKETBALL TEAM DOING AT A PRESS CONFERENCE?!? That is the biggest freakin joke I have ever seen. Child abuse. The parents of Rutgers players should sue the school for allowing their kids to be made into a public spectacles. I guarantee you - GUARANTEE - there's a way to sue the school, on behalf of any basketball player, under current Sexual Harrassment laws, and win. Guarantee.
Posted by: gcotharn on Apr. 11, 2007Those girls are, effectively, employed by the university. They generate revenue for the university. If they don't show up, in their sweatsuits, at that vanity press conference for their coach; and if they don't show up, to sacrifice themselves on the altar of an NAACP/race hustler agenda; then they could reasonably expect they might lose playing time next season. They could reasonably expect harrassment in practice: extra running, extra disciplinary measures, extra criticism from their coach. Their scholarships are year to year. They could reasonably fear their scholarship might not be renewed. When that vanity + race hustler press conference was announced to the media, those girls were instantly thrust into a hostile work environment.
Posted by: gcotharn on Apr. 11, 2007Those girls, and their parents, would never sue the school. College is too short, and too precious of an experience, to defile it in order to make a political point. However, this is the type of counter-terror lawsuits which conservatives should be filing, across the nation, to break the back of the EEOC, and or the current court rulings vis a vis sexual harrassment law. Leftist employers, and managers, are mindlessly running amok, and creating work conditions which ideally fit inside the definition of "hostile work environment." No one has thought to sue them for it, and service of a counter terror pushback at sexual harrassment law. Conservative attorneys should be soliciting such lawsuits. There is a gaping vulnerability there, waiting to be exploited.
Posted by: gcotharn on Apr. 11, 2007Blu,
The take on this story from a fried.........
I'd like to see Don and Al shackled together like Sidney and Tony. They could call it Raison and Son. Or they could learn to cooperate and co-produce the Imus and Andy Show. Maybe they could get the Reverend Jackson to atone for his Hymietown remark by playing the role of George 'Whitefish' Stevens. Sharpton: "What dat disgustin' smell, Whitefish?" Whitefish: "Ah thinks dat's dog poo, Andy. It comin' from dat nasty plastic garbage bag. Saaaaaay! Dere's a nappy-headed ho in dat shitty bag! Why, it's Too-wanna Brawly!" Cut to commercial: Mississippi John Hurt for Maxwell House coffee. I'm just glad that Buddy Hackett and Jerry Lewis never lived to see this.
Happily, living in California, I don't have to listen to him.
Actually, and also happily, no one has to listen to Imus, even those who don't live in California.
Posted by: eh on Apr. 11, 2007blu, if you are referring to Richard Lindzen, I'd have to say that he's entitled to his opinion. I'm sure the $2500 per showing he gets from giving endless presentations to lobbyists, conservative organizations, and oil/coal/gas/automaker/utility groups has noinfluence on his POV.
If you are referring to the many other at MIT, you'll see that they overwhelmingly support the IPCC position (indeed, several participate in the IPCC process). So Lindzen is a part of a vocal, though tiny, minority of climate researchers.
Don't confuse a cool fraction of a month with long term climate trends; that's a futile attempt by the denialist spin doctors to delude the lay public. And April is far from over...
Posted by: will on Apr. 12, 2007As I predicted, Will is incapable of making any intellectual argument against Lindzen's position:
"I'm sure the $2500 per showing he gets from giving endless presentations to lobbyists, conservative organizations, and oil/coal/gas/automaker/utility groups has noinfluence on his POV."
This is always Will's ploy regardless of the debate: Shout loudly about his position being correct and then personally attack any person with a contrary position. It's sad and pathetic really.
Will, you are a sophist. Anybody who understands how research money is given and who provides those funds, understands that each scientist and each benefactor has an agenda.
Go, push your propoganda on some 6th graders, who might actually buy it. (Sadly, your kind of junk science is already being systematically included in the propoganda of the public school system.)
Oh, this April, coldest on record in, what, 100 years...?
blu,
Lindzen merely states that he doesn't understand how the climate models can be used as prediction tools. He's one of a very tiny minority of scientists, most of whom have been backtracking their statements over the last several years as more data has become available and the models have been shown to be surprisingly accurate in identifying trends.
I have no doubt that you also hold highly conservative positions on evolution, flat earth, and similar topics, holding up one or two cranks as your champions. Even your hero Newt now says you are full of fertilizer, so the island position you are defending is eroding rapidly around your feet even as you speak. It's time to bail out, else you will spend inordinate amounts of time splashing about aimlessly.
Posted by: will on Apr. 13, 2007Dear Annika,
Please, for the love of all that is good in this world, concede to Will's points.
As you may already know, he is the host to my symbiotic existence. If he is not happy, then his misery will inevitably trickle down to ME.
If you could find it in your heart to...oh fuck it. Here's the lowdown: see, unless if you kowtow to his views, my host can't get a stiffy. Ever. Again.
He's been forcing me, at gunpoint, to give him handj0bs, but it hasn't been working out so far. You should see how Will takes his frustrations out on me! He flogs me with the strap-on that he's been using on the missus! The horror!
So, don't be an ice queen. I only have about a month left before he decides to end it all for both of us. Give him what he wants for my sake, PLEASE!
Graciously waiting,
Swill
Posted by: Swill on Apr. 13, 2007Those who can't debate the science on its merits use any number of other rhetorical tricks.
Posted by: will on Apr. 16, 2007