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October 13, 2005

Pinter Gets The Nobel

Playwright Harold Pinter has won the Nobel Prize for literature. i saw a production of his most famous play The Birthday Party years ago. It was as advertised: tense, absurdist, deeply psychological and disturbing. i recommend it. i have also seen The Caretaker, which i didn't like as much.

But Pinter is as anti-American as they come, which says something about the Nobel committee, since i don't think Pinter's done anything noteworthy since he wrote The French Lieutenant's Woman.

Here's a sampling of his poetry:


There's no escape.
The big pricks are out.
They'll fuck everything in sight.
Watch your back.

That's not even good poetry. Its more like a piece of dialogue at some snooty Brit cocktail party where every one wears black sportcoats over black turtlenecks. Its easy to sneer at Democracy when your life is spent hobnobbing with celebs in Mayfair and the Upper East Side and you never have to deal with real people.

God Bless America

Here they go again,
The Yanks in their armoured parade
Chanting their ballads of joy
As they gallop across the big world
Praising America's God.

The gutters are clogged with the dead
The ones who couldn't join in
The others refusing to sing
The ones who are losing their voice
The ones who've forgotten the tune.

The riders have whips which cut.
Your head rolls onto the sand
Your head is a pool in the dirt
Your head is a stain in the dust
Your eyes have gone out and your nose
Sniffs only the pong of the dead
And all the dead air is alive
With the smell of America's God.

Nice. Sounds like he has a problem with religion too. It would be a shock if even one of these celebrity anti-war libs ever strayed from that template.

Update: More at The New Criterion. Hat tip to K-Lo at The Corner.

Posted by annika, Oct. 13, 2005 | TrackBack (0)
Rubric: Poetry


Pinter always had serious mental problems. Anyone who sits through more than 2 of his plays will also have serious mental problems.

Posted by: Jake on Oct. 13, 2005

Both of those so-called poems were ridiculous. If they are any indication of his "talent," I think that I'll pass on his other work. Any semi-literate, angst-filled 8th grader could come up with that kind of trash.

BTW, when did any collection of words strung together become "poetry?"

Posted by: Blu on Oct. 13, 2005

I noticed that Pinter opposed our invasion of Afghanistan. Great.

Like Arthur Miller's subliminal pro-communist tripe in our schools today, the socialist Euro-trash are probably going to make it a mandate that all kids read Pinter's shit in high schools throughout the E.U.

Wikipedia had this interesting tidbit in their Miller entry:

[In 1985, Miller visited Turkey and was honored at the American embassy. After his traveling companion Harold Pinter was thrown out of the country for discussing torture, Miller left in support.]

Douchebags alike.

Posted by: reagan80 on Oct. 13, 2005

It's funny you mention Arthur Miller. When i was in High school (Oh so long ago) and was exposed to "Death Of a Salesman" I thought it was pretty good, but I completely did not identify with the Moral of the story.
I understand that Miller was trying to say that Willie Loman raised his kids wrong, teaching them to rely on their looks, charisma, and contacts to get by, rather than any real ability.
However, even at that age I could see that if you have looks, charisma, and contacts, thats a winning strategy. Certainly it pays off much more often than a plain looking person from the wrong side of the tracks working their ass off.

Posted by: Kyle N on Oct. 13, 2005

Hey Raygun,

Whose torture do you think they were discussing? Ours or Turkey's and when did you become a big supporter of torture? I agree Ray the world would be a far more interesting place if all the novelists, playwrights, painters and others that find fault with America were not studied in our schools. Then you could just sit there and stare out the window contemplating the oxymoron of your existence and intelligent design.

Annika- consider the “left’s” template like this: do you think it is a defect of imagination that causes gun manufactures to all make their bullets cylindrical?

Posted by: Strawman on Oct. 13, 2005

No offense there Mr. Strawman but your parallel between the Left's template and gun manufacturers' use of cylindrical bullets is some pretty weak shit. I've come to expect a little better rhetoric from you. Next time maybe....

Posted by: Blu on Oct. 13, 2005

For the record, Annie, the Nobel in 2001 went to V.S. Naipaul, who is about as right-wing as you can get and still be published in English letters. The Nobel committee has made some mystifying choices and overlooked worthies (I am pulling for Doris Lessing or Phillip Roth), but it doesn't invariably skew left.

Posted by: Hugo on Oct. 13, 2005


I don't believe Reagan was attempting to make a point about torture; by my reading, he was simply pointing out that, in line with his expectations, Miller and Pinter were friends.

Right, Reagan?

Posted by: Matt on Oct. 13, 2005

Correct, Matt.

Instead of closing with "douchebags alike", maybe I should have said "birds of a feather...." instead.


I had to read The Crucible in high school AND college. I had to learn and write papers about the evils of Joe McCarthy and anti-communist Republicans twice. Fuck Miller I say.


You misunderstood me. I never supported torture, and I'm not a big fan of the Turks either. As Matt said, I was just pointing out the "guilt by association".

"I agree Ray the world would be a far more interesting place if all the novelists, playwrights, painters and others THAT FIND FAULT WITH AMERICA were not studied in our schools."

It would be a nice change if there were more books that pointed out the goodness of our country instead of constantly shoveling self-hating American Leftist literature into the classrooms of future generations of our citizens.

Most of my American history courses in college were devoted to telling us how awful we were to the Native Americans, Mexicans, blacks, and women. Besides The Crucible, my literature instructor also threw in some anti-war satirical short story(W.D. Howells' "Editha") about the Spanish-American War a month before the conflict in Iraq began. I've had it with the liberal bully pulpit crap.

Intelligent Design? I wonder how you would have felt about Harriet Beecher Stowe, Mike? She was a Republican and a Bible-thumper. In Uncle Tom's Cabin, she cited the Lord's name often when making her case against slavery. Almost every character in that book was devoutly religious and PRAYED often except Simon Legree and the slave traders. Does this book's apparent church/state violation in our schools make your skin crawl?

If not, would you be comfortable if Stowe were alive today to write a fictional book with strong Christian influences that espoused the abolition of abortion AND if that book were required reading at public schools?

Posted by: reagan80 on Oct. 13, 2005

Birds of a feather flock together.
Douchebags alike... uh... take a hike? Ride a bike? Wanna be like Mike?

"Most of my American history courses in college were devoted to telling us how awful we were"

i think its funny that my professors tried so hard to turn me into a liberal, and look what happened.

Posted by: annika on Oct. 14, 2005

Nice rhymes, Annika.

I'm grateful that people like you and the other Bear Flag Leaguers could resist the overwhelming influence of the Left on the West Coast during your formative years.

Posted by: reagan80 on Oct. 14, 2005

Funny you say that Annika, I am currently getting a second degree in History, and it seems that the dark times (at least at my university) are on the wane, By that I mean that most of the courses are very reasoned and make claims only that are backed up with copious research. That is not to say most of the proffs arn't lefties, they are, But they are not far out foaming at the mouth moonbats.

Posted by: Kyle N on Oct. 14, 2005

Madonna says we're all going to hell if we don't stop our wicked behavior. Bad poetry and eternal damnation, what next?

Posted by: MarkD on Oct. 17, 2005

I so agree with you on Pinter. I still propose a mass exodus (with blessings) of the anti-American populous at large.

You are my idol.


Posted by: DP on Oct. 18, 2005